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Showing posts with label Licensed Sports Products Retailer. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Licensed Sports Products Retailer. Show all posts

Tuesday, April 3, 2012

How online ecommerce stores / retailers / etailers selling licensed sports products can find suppliers / licensees / manufacturers who will sell to them and drop ship for them

Greeting folks!

This note is written by Scott Sillcox in fall 2023 in response to a lot of readers asking me two questions:

A. You wrote and posted many of your blog postings several years ago, is the info still relevant today? Short answer - absolutely! The basics of sports licensing change very little over the years, so I strongly suggest that if you are trying to learn about sports licensing, read away! I have also tried to update certain areas where there have been significant changes, so I feel comfortable in telling you that this information is still highly relevant.

B. You mention that you are a consultant and might be able to help me, do you still do consulting? Short answer - absolutely! I work in the licensing field virtually every day of my life, so if you have questions or would like my help, contact me! The two primary ways I work are hourly telephone consulting ($175US/hour) and face-to-face meetings where I come right to your office for a full day ($1500US/day + $650 travel expenses).

Many thanks and happy reading -
Scott Sillcox

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Greetings!

I am getting asked the following question almost every day, so I thought I should post both the question and my answer in this blog posting.

Scott:

For someone who is starting out as an online ecommerce store / retailer / etailer of licensed sports products, how do I build a relationship with licensed sports products licensees who will sell to me? How do I find a list of the licensees? How do I find out which ones will do drop shipping for me? Can you tell me about distributors and if they will do drop shipping for me? Where do I go to read your blogs?

Dear current or future online ecommerce store / retailer / etailer:

1. Last question first: My blog can be found here. It is primarily directed at licensed sports products LICENSEES, ie companies which are currently licensees of one or more of the North American sports leagues (NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, Nascar, NCAA, MLS, etc.), or companies/individuals wishing to become licensees of a sports league(s). But there are a number of postings that would apply to retailers/potential retailers like you and I encourage you to read away.

2. You may see other online ecommerce stores / retailers / etailers who seem to have drop shipping programs with various licensed sports product licensees (manufacturers) that you would to have relationships with. I think it’s very important that you understand as much as you can about a company called Kynetic which operates the online stores for the NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, Nascar and ESPN. Please read this blog posting.

The same company, Kynetic, also owns a company called Fanatics (aka Team Fan Shop). Fanatics operates online stores for dozens and dozens of organizations and teams (see their list of partners here). This company (Kynetic + Fanatics) buys product from all sorts of licensed sports products companies (licensees), warehouses the product, and then ships the product - they do not ask the licensees to drop ship. This company (Kynetic + Fanatics) is the largest seller of licensed sports merchandise in the world (not just the largest online seller, the largest seller in total). So when you are trying to figure out who drop ships and who doesn’t, keep in mind that Kynetic/Fanatics does NOT ask the various licensees to drop ship for them – they buy the product outright and warehouse it themselves.

I mention all this because it is entirely possible that a website you admire and think has a drop shipping program established with a licensee (manufacturer) might in fact be a Kynetic/Fanatic website, in which case they don’t actually have a drop shipping program in place with the manufacturer.

3. If you are trying to find licensed sports product licensees (manufacturers) who will drop ship for you, here is my advice:

A. Decide what you are going to specialize in, ie NFL apparel.

B. Go to my searchable online directory and use the Advanced Search feature to find all the companies listed which sell the products you are most interested in. In this case you would search for companies which have the following characteristics: 1. Softgoods - Apparel/Jerseys/Outerwear/Tshirts and are licensed by the NFL - you should find approximately 26 companies. This is a paid directory, and costs $59 for three months use. If you're not sure if this database would be worth the investment, check out this 3 minute video that gives you a sense of what to expect.

C. Figure out which of the 26 sells product that you like (each company's website is right there on my website).

D. Pick up the phone and call each company's sales department - the phone # is right in the database as well. Ask if they have a drop shipping program for ecommerce retailers. If they do, great. If they don't, ask if they can suggest to you a DISTRIBUTOR of theirs who you can work with. To be clear, a Distributor is a company that buys product from a variety of manufacturers (licensees), stores the product in their warehouse, and then sells the product to retailers. Yes it costs you more than if you were able to buy the product from the manufacturer (licensee) directly, but not outrageously more. And most distributors have drop ship programs for online retailers like you. My online directory www.licensedsports.net also has a list of 19 distributors of licensed sports products in the USA and 9 in Canada (use Advanced search and search for 4. Licensed Sports Products Distributors and Country = USA). You can visit each of their sites to see if they carry NFL apparel, then go ahead and contact them to find out if they will drop ship for you.

For more on Distributors, please read this blog posting, especially the last portion.

4. You asked how to build a relationship with these companies (licensees and/or distributors)? By picking up the phone and calling them, and by treating them with respect and paying your bills on time (at least initially you will have to pay for everything by Credit Card, so paying on time isn't really a way to differentiate yourself since all bills will be paid immediately). If/when you become a decent sized customer, they will take note and start to do extra things for you, and one day you will wake up and find that you have built a relationship with them.

I hope this helps!

As always, if you have any questions, please contact me.
Scott

PS from Feb 2013
I hear from a lot of retailers, both bricks and mortar and e-commerce retailers, who want to buy jerseys to sell from their store but seemingly can't buy jerseys. Here's the best way I can explain things:
There are actually two distinct issues:
1. Identifying which officially licensed companies make replica or authentic jerseys.
2. Figuring out if any of them will sell the jerseys directly to you.

To explain, let's use the NFL and their jerseys as the example:

A. Nike is the official on-field jersey licensee for the NFL (I am using layman's terms), but they may only sell to a certain, select type of bricks and mortar retailer and to a select type of e-commerce retailer. I am not privy to their criteria for who they will and will not sell to - you have to work the phone with Nike's sales team and find out if they will sell to you or not. If they will not sell to you directly, you need to ask them if one or more of the entities they sell to (I would refer to these entities as a distributor, but Nike might call them something quite different) would in turn be willing to sell to you. And that's the key for you - you need to figure out who you can buy from - I do not have this info but Nike does. If anyone can share with me the names of a "distributor" who will sell Nike jerseys to independent bricks and mortar retailers and independent e-comm retailers, please let me know - there is a flood of companies wanting to buy from you. Also, please keep in mind that Nike sells several different "grades" of jerseys: they sell a Game Jersey which looks more or less like the on-field jersey and retails for $100-ish; a Limited Jersey which is a funky jersey not worn onfield and retails for $135-ish; and an Elite Jersey which appears to be the actual onfield style jersey and which retails for $250-ish).

B. In addition to Nike, Mitchell & Ness (owned by adidas/Reebok), also has an NFL jersey license, albeit for Throwback Jerseys ($250-ish retail) and Replica Jerseys (these appear to be throwbacks but are a different quality than the Throwback jersey line - these Replica jerseys retail for $140-ish). So you might also want to speak to M&N and see if you can buy directly from them or if not direct, could you buy through a "distributor"?

Monday, March 19, 2012

Does a Retailer need an NFL (or MLB or NBA or NHL or NCAA) license to sell licensed sports products from my bricks and mortar store and/or over the internet?

I am a retailer – do I need an NFL (or MLB or NBA or NHL or NCAA) license to sell licensed sports products from my bricks and mortar store and/or over the internet?

I get asked this question more often than I ever would have guessed. To me the answer is so clear - “No you don’t need a license to be a retailer of licensed sports products” - that at first I thought people were asking me a different question and I was misunderstanding them. But the question kept being asked on a weekly basis, so it is clearly something people are unsure of, and it has prompted me to post my response here for others to find.

Note 1: I also find that I am getting asked this question by retailers outside of North America – ie a retailer in Spain wishing to sell NFL licensed merchandise. In this post I try to answer that question as well.

Note #2: Please note that in my answers below, for the sake of simplicity I have used the NFL as my example, but please understand that for the most part any time you see “NFL”, you could replace it with MLB or NBA or NHL or NCAA or MLS or Nascar, etc. The key is that the principle of the answer holds for the other leagues as well, not just the NFL.

So, I am a retailer – do I need an NFL (or MLB or NBA or NHL or NCAA) license to sell licensed sports products from my bricks and mortar store and/or over the internet?

1. You do not need a license of any kind from the NFL to sell NFL products at retail. This holds whether you are a bricks and mortar retailer, or an e-tailer, or both. All you need is to find NFL licensees (or distributors – see below) willing to sell their products to you. This answer may prompt two other questions:

A. You might well ask, why wouldn’t an NFL licensee sell to you? - If you are a small retailer and you are wanting to sell Nike licensed merchandise, Nike might not sell directly to you because you aren’t able to place a large enough order. Or Nike may have a carefully crafted list of established retail accounts with whom they work and they simply will not sell to you. But this unwillingness-to-sell is rare and only applies with the largest of licensees like Nike and does not apply to the vast majority of the other 174 NFL licensees.

B. You might ask – where can I find a list of “all the NFL licensees” that I can contact with respect to buying NFL licensed products from them?
- You might think that the leagues would be happy to provide you with such a list, and you might be right. You can always try contacting the various leagues and see if they will provide you with a list of their licensees. If they won’t, and I suspect they won’t for a variety of reasons, I offer two suggestions:

Allow me to try to clarify something that can be quite confusing. The NFL does have a "Retail License", and at first glance you might think this means that the NFL is granting certain companies the right to retail NFL licensed merchandise. This is NOT what the NFL menas by Retail License - what a Retail License is a license that allows a manufacturer (ie a licensee) to sell products to retailers. So if I am an NFL licensee with a Retail license, this simply means that I can sell my products to retailers. It does NOT mean that I am a retailer who has been given some special right by the NFL.

Online directory of licensed sports product companies
(i) Please visit LicensedSports.net a searchable Online Directory of North American Licensed Sports Products Companies that you can sign up to use for $59 for three months. This is a highly searchable directory of 2500+ licensed sports products companies in North America, companies which have been licensed by various sports leagues. Looking for companies which sell NFL housewares? You’ll find a list here including contact names, phone numbers, email addresses and dynamically-linked websites. Looking for a supplier who makes NFL and MLB and Nascar headwear? That list is here. Looking for a new supplier of MLB licensed posters? That info is here as well. (In the interest of full disclosure, please note that I, Scott Sillcox, created this online, searchable directory precisely because the information was not readily available anywhere else. It may seem a bit self serving for me to promote my own directory, but it’s easy to use and there’s nothing like it on the internet - fair value for $59.) If you're not sure if this database would be worth the investment, check out this 3 minute video that gives you a sense of what to expect.

(ii) Plan on attending the “Sports Licensing and Tailgate Show” held annually in January in Las Vegas. While not every licensed sports products company exhibits at this show - there are approximately 3500+ licensed sports product companies in North America (the vast majority of which as US college licensees), and you will find 300-ish of them represented at the show - there is a very good cross-section of licensed sports product companies including almost all of the biggest ones, and it would be well worth your while to attend the show if you are retailer looking for product.

2. Just to be crystal clear, while you don’t need a license to sell licensed sports products at retail, you DO need a license if you wish to manufacture and sell products with NFL league and team logos and trademarks to retailers, wholesalers, distributors, etc. Geographically, the NFL breaks this type of license into NFL USA licensees, NFL Canada licensees and NFL International licensees. (I'm not completely in-the-know with the NFL International license - perhaps they have broken this down into smaller areas or regions rather than simply "the rest of the world", ie an NFL Europe license and an NFL Asia license.)

- When someone is an "NFL USA" licensee, what this means is that they are contractually bound to only sell products to customers (retailers, distributors, "wholesalers") in the USA - they cannot sell to customers outside the USA. My company is located in Canada and yet I can be a NFL USA licensee - the license designation defines who you can sell to, not where you are located.

- It is these licensed sports products companies (licensees) which pay the NFL the licensing royalty, generally 15% of the wholesale price. For instance, if NFL licensee ABC CO sells $5,000,000 worth of NFL products to retailers (15% royalty) and distributors (18% royalty) and other various wholesalers (15-18%), they must remit to the NFL a royalty in the amount of 15% (or 18%) x $5,000,000 = $750,000. But the retailers and distributors and wholesalers do not submit any royalties whatsoever to the NFL - the royalty has already been paid at what is referred to as "The First Level of Distribution" – when the sale was made by the licensee to the retailer or distributor.

3. For retailers in Europe who wish to buy NFL licensed products, here are my thoughts/suggestions:

- If you are interested in being a retailer in Europe (let’s assume England for now), as explained above you do not need a license of any kind from the NFL. But you do need to understand that theoretically you can only buy from companies with an NFL International license (manufacturers) OR from "middleman" companies who have purchased from companies with an NFL license (these type of companies are generally called distributors or in some cases “wholesalers” but that is a confusing expression). The question then becomes, how do you find a list of companies (licensees) you can buy from?

- To get a list of companies with NFL International licenses, ie NFL International Licensees, I suggest that you contact either:

A. The NFL Head Office in New York (contact info below). You should explain that you are a retailer in Europe, and that you would like to receive a list of NFL International Licensees from which you are allowed to buy NFL products.
Updated Dec 2021:
- I believe that Angie Clift, Manager NFL Consumer Products, or someone on her staff should be able to provide you with such a list. angie.clift@nfl.com 
- For North American retailers, contact the NFL switchboard in New York at 212-450-2000. If you are successful in obtaining a list of NFL US licensees, good for the NFL for helping you and would you be nice enough to let me know?

Updated Dec 2021:
B. The NFL Europe office is located in London and you could contact them and explain that you are a retailer in Europe and that you would like to receive a list of NFL International Licensees from which you are allowed to buy NFL products.

www.nfluk.com
4th Floor, 1-9 Hills Place
London, UK W1F 7SA
Ph: 44-20-7534-0030

Brett Gosper
Head of Europe & UK National Football League (NFL)
London, England, United Kingdom
Gosper reports to the New York-based NFL executive vice president and chief strategy and growth officer Christopher Halpin.

Jessica Campbell
Europe Licensing Manager
London area, UK
E: jessica dot campbell at nfl dot com

Maisie Wharton
Partnership Manager at NFL UK
NFL UK
London, England, United Kingdom
E: maisie dot wharton at nfl dot com

Alexander Steinforth
Head of NFL Germany as of Jan 2022 - General Manager Germany
Office location TBA
Look for a LInkedin article by Steinforth re his new NFL job which starts in Jan 2022

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Alistair Kirkwood
Managing Director, NFL International
Retired in late 2020 after 20 years in the role. Replaced by Brett Gosper - see above

No longer there as of Dec 2021
David Tossell
Director of Public Affairs, NFL Europe/UK







- But there is one other important source of NFL licensed products for you to buy from, and this is the group of "middleman" companies I referred to above which are known as "distributors". In this case these distributors have already purchased from NFL licensees, and these distributors can and should be able to sell to anyone they please, including someone in England even if they are based in the US. I do not know if there is such a distributor(s) in Europe, but I suspect there is - use the internet or ask the NFL UK office contact.

- But here's the key point and key takeaway in this entire blog posting and this is directed at North American and non-North American retailers: Don't be limited to European distributors - you can purchase from US-based distributors (some contact info can be found below). The key thing about distributors of NFL products, particularly those in North America, is that they make it their business to stock a wide variety of NFL products (almost all teams) AND they generally have very low minimum order levels, ie you can order 3 of this and 2 of that and 6 of another thing, and you simply order using a credit card. That is the business of distribution - they basically act as a warehouse of NFL products. Yes they charge a bit more than if you bought directly from the NFL licensee, but not outrageously so. Please also note that the distributors suggested below almost always sell more than just NFL products, they also sell MLB and NBA and NHL products that you might also be interested in. The distributors below are listed in no particular order.

NEW INFO: In addition to the great distributors listed below, please also check out my searchable Online Directory of North American Licensed Sports Products Companies which costs $59 to use for three months. In it you will find a large list of Distributors and their contact information - roughly 80-ish distributors in te USA. Simply use the "Advanced Search" option and search for category 4 = Licensed Sports Products Distributors.

Here are a few licensed sports product distributors to give you a sense of what distributors look like.   

Distributor #1: Casey's Distributing
8921 "J" Street, Suite 300
Omaha, NE 68127
USA
Ph: (402)334-3485
www.caseys-distributing.com
Check out their website and you can actually see products, pricing and quantities on hand.

Distributor #2: WCN Group
2401 Monarch Street
Alameda, CA 94501
USA
Ph: (510)748-4248
WCN Group website
Check out their website and you can see products but not pricing or quantities on hand.

Distributor #3: Big Apple Card Company
4800 Lyons Technology Parkway, Unit 2
Coconut Creek, FL 33073
USA
Ph: 800-883-8090
www.bigapplecard.com
Check out their huge selection of licensed of hardline and softgoods products from the major leagues as shown in their remarkable catalogue.

Distributor #4: Good Tymes Enterprises Inc.
P.O. Box 2073
228 Preston St SW
Abingdon, VA 24212
Ph: 866-628-5101
Fx: 276-628-4779
www.goodtymesent.com
A distributor of Nascar, collegiate, NFL, MLB, NBA and NHL products. They have a wide range of hardlines products - no softgoods. They have a 90 page 2013 catalogue.

Best of luck and I hope this has helped answer some of the questions listed below.

Thanks for reading, and as always, please let me know if you have any questions!
Scott Sillcox

PS from Feb 2013
I hear from a lot of retailers, both bricks and mortar and e-commerce retailers, who want to buy jerseys to sell from their store but seemingly can't buy jerseys. Here's the best way I can explain things:
There are actually two distinct issues:
1. Identifying which officially licensed companies make replica or authentic jerseys.
2. Figuring out if any of them will sell the jerseys directly to you.

To explain, let's use the NFL and their jerseys as the example:

A. Nike is the official on-field jersey licensee for the NFL (I am using layman's terms), but they may only sell to a certain, select type of bricks and mortar retailer and to a select type of e-commerce retailer. I am not privy to their criteria for who they will and will not sell to - you have to work the phone with Nike's sales team and find out if they will sell to you or not. If they will not sell to you directly, you need to ask them if one or more of the entities they sell to (I would refer to these entities as a distributor, but Nike might call them something quite different) would in turn be willing to sell to you. And that's the key for you - you need to figure out who you can buy from - I do not have this info but Nike does. If anyone can share with me the names of a "distributor" who will sell Nike jerseys to independent bricks and mortar retailers and independent e-comm retailers, please let me know - there is a flood of companies wanting to buy from you. Also, please keep in mind that Nike sells several different "grades" of jerseys: they sell a Game Jersey which looks more or less like the on-field jersey and retails for $100-ish; a Limited Jersey which is a funky jersey not worn onfield and retails for $135-ish; and an Elite Jersey which appears to be the actual onfield style jersey and which retails for $250-ish).

B. In addition to Nike, Mitchell & Ness (owned by adidas/Reebok), also has an NFL jersey license, albeit for Throwback Jerseys ($250-ish retail) and Replica Jerseys (these appear to be throwbacks but are a different quality than the Throwback jersey line - these Replica jerseys retail for $140-ish). So you might also want to speak to M&N and see if you can buy directly from them or if not direct, could you buy through a "distributor"?
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Do you need a license to sell NFL merchandise?
Do you need a license to be an NFL retailer?
How do you become a licensed NFL vendor?
How can you sell officially licensed NFL merchandise / products / goods / accessories / apparel?
How do you sell items with NFL team logos?

Do you need a license to sell MLB merchandise?
Do you need a license to be an MLB retailer?
How do you become a licensed MLB vendor?
How can you sell officially licensed MLB merchandise / products / goods / accessories / apparel?
How do you sell items with MLB team logos?

Do you need a license to sell NBA merchandise?
Do you need a license to be an NBA retailer?
How do you become a licensed NBA vendor?
How can you sell officially licensed NBA merchandise / products / goods / accessories / apparel?
How do you sell items with NBA team logos?

Do you need a license to sell NHL merchandise?
Do you need a license to be an NHL retailer?
How do you become a licensed NHL vendor?
How can you sell officially licensed NHL merchandise / products / goods / accessories / apparel?
How do you sell items with NHL team logos?

Do you need a license to sell NCAA / US College merchandise?
Do you need a license to be an NCAA / US College retailer?
How do you become a licensed NCAA / US College vendor?
How can you sell officially licensed NCAA / US College merchandise / products / goods / accessories / apparel?
How do you sell items with NCAA / US College team logos?